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Is it unrealistic to think that a 20+ year old J24 can compete in the top 10 in light light conditions? I know our boathandling/trim can improve but is it just us or is it partly the older sail boat/setup?

Question:
I'm seeking some light air performance tips.

I've sailed on CAN2947 for the past five seasons. After many many regattas I have concluded that we are competitive with the top half of the fleet when there is 8+ knots of wind. However, when the wind drops we fall way behind. To fix this problem we did the following to the boat:

New Quantum sails Tuned the rig properly (max J, mast butt max foreward, max forestay, max spreader deflection, etc) Starting trimming the sails in accordance with the Quantum tuning guide

This has given us a huge improvement this season. However, we still fall behind in really light conditions (just not as much now) so I'm looking for some tips from some of you rockstars out there. Can you give us some tips? I'm dumbfounded by the fact that there is so much separation between the top boats and the bulk of the fleet in light light conditions but that the separation seems to diminish as the wind picks up. Is it unrealistic to think that a 20+ year old J24 can compete in the top 10 in light light conditions? I know our boathandling/trim can improve but is it just us or is it partly the older sail boat/setup?


Answer:
- The best thing, seeing as you have a new(ish) set of sails, would be to ask the sailmaker to come out with you on one of these days. S/he should be willing to do this...

Other thoughts:

1) easing the genoa to the lifeline is too much....on a light day you want to trim 8-10" off the spreader. The main leach should be closed not open. Make sure the traverler is in the right place so the boom is on centerline. Coming out of a tack start with the main/genoa eased a couple of inches more and point the boat so the outside genoa telltale is starting to rise (eg. foot mode). Once you start to come up to speed slowly trim the sails in and bring the boat up (sails first, then boat). As you generate more speed you can point higher. If you hit a wave and slow down you have to start over. You can bear down to power up to get through a wave and maybe avoid slowing down.

2) The genoa car is too far forward. Consider the position for 8 knots of wind where the genoa touches the spreader and the chainplate at the same time as "neutral". You rarely go more than 3 holes forward or back (assuming 3 holes between screws). Try moving the car back and sail closehauled. After you're settled down let the boat drift up slowly and watch the telltales break. They should break evenly. There is a "special" setting for light air/flat water where you pull the car back as far as it will go...only works in flat water.

3) Make sure your leach lines are not too tight.

4) Don't pull hard on the genoa halyard on light days. You want some scalloping to develop along the headstay.

5) The shrouds make a big difference. Make sure they aren't too tight. Don't forget the backstay. This won't affect upwind speed too much (assuming it isn't cranked on) but it does affect downwind speed. As the uppers/lowers change the backstay has to change as well. Make sure you're careful about the way you adjust the backstay as if the two sides are not the same it will pull the tip of the mast off to one side of the boat or the other.

The pit person really isn't sending weight that far aft but make sure you stow stuff towards the bow if you're worried about too much weight in the stern. Also, have you looked inside the boat? Is there a lot of stuff in there that shouldn't be?

I have a 20+ year old boat (1981) and we don't have this problem...with regards to the boat, if you don't dry sail it, has it been weighed recently? The boats can absorb water over time and it may be significantly heavier than it should be. This isn't really an "older boat" problem, it affects all boats that live in the water for a "long time".

- I read that in really light conditions closing the leach tends to prevent your ability to establish air flow over the sails (which begs the question why did I have my tracks full forward). I guess I'll play with that and the knot meter during a practice and see what's what.

I'm working on the skipper to try and get him to foot more to get the boat underway. He moved his boat from Hawaii where he was used to big air sailing so I need to work on him!!!

I'm sure our rig tension is chronically too high as the skipper thinks he's sailing off of Honolulu!!!

Our boat weight is ok. The crew aren't allowed to bring a lot of stuff and we have removed any excess weight including 5 bottles of sunscreen, excess water, parts and tools, etc.

We dry sail and the boat weight is within class specs according to our measurement certificate (which is a little outdated).

I was looking at last years overall fleet standings and the top 10 boats were newer sail/hull numbers. We have predominately light light air so I'm thinking the newer boats are faster. But, maybe they are better sailors who happen to have newer boats. Not sure.

What's interesting is that when the wind came up we were neck and neck with the World Qualifying top boats in our district for at least a few legs on Sunday. That was incouraging.

Anyway, thanks for your tips. Our J is a 1981 as well. It's encouraging to hear that you have done well with an older boat in light air.

Anyone else have any comments?


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