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Which Fly Fishing Boat? I need a fly fishing boat for use in the brackish waters of the Chesapeake Bay and its tributaries. (For example, the smallest water would be a stump-filled flat on the Rappahannock River and the biggest water would be the Potomac River at the Harry Nice Bridge (Route 301).

The fly fishing criterion is significant, since fly fishing in winds over 20 knots is an exercise in misplaced macho and I am likely to stay home if the wind is over 15 knots or its not a blue-bird day. I want to be able to go home in worse conditions, if things get bad, but I plan to arrange never to have to move more than five miles to get out of the water. For this reason, I'd prefer a sharp bowed boat. (I am not sure if its any harder to build a pointy one than a flat one anyways.)

I want a small boat because my budget is limited and the space to store it is even more limited. If I build, I have to build it in a 20 x 12 unheated garage. I'd buy a boat because I am an indifferent workman with little time, but the boughten boats I can find don't have the best hull shape and are lacking in other areas, e.g. too heavy.

I have looked at boat plans on the web and found a couple that look promising, but I have concerns over support for first-time builders and over the actual difficulty in building one design over another. Any comments on the suitability of either the Glenn-L Power Skiff 14 or the Bateau.com Indian River Skiff (D15). Any comments on either of these as to quality of design and support from the seller? Is there another similar set of plans I should also be considering?


Answer:
- I would have to say that I would go with something with a wide beam so you can stand comnfortably. I bet a bass boat or other wide beam boat with a shallow draft and casting deck would work great for fly fishing.

I was a little put off by Jacques at Bateau, but after talking with his web designer and discovering that he is just a bit brusque to everybody and actually does follow through with support - through his on-line forum I might be more inclined to use their design. They have a number of garvey designs that I think would great stable casting platforms. I ordered a set of GV17 plans myself yesterday because they show a bass boat deck plan as included with the plans.

On the flip side of that. I have also received a set of plans from Glen-L for their Jimbo design, and every question I have asked them has been answered. Not always the answer I wanted, but always a good answer. They have also pointed me towards useful resources. I think the plans from Glen-L are excellent, but I found their instructions to be a little confusing to read. They are very complete, but don't have a clear step wise process lined out. The patterns are excellent. I think that the plans will gel together as you start building if you read them from beginning to end once before starting.

When my Bateau plans arrive (if they arrive since my cc has not yet been charged) I'll let you know how well written the plans and instructions are for their boats. Fritz, Jacques web designer, has been very helpful. He is building a GV15 with casting decks. I think that is right in the size range you are looking at.

To be honest though, your assessment that buying a boat might fit your needs may be accurate. If you don't get into the building process and derive some enjoyment from it, but rather just want a boat to fish from. Take a look at www.traderonline.com . I was amazed how cheap some used boats are selling for. Much less than you could build one for in many cases.

- assume it will be towed behind the car on a trailer. on lakes and rivers around here the 14 ft open aluminum boat with 9.9 hp motor is the standard fishing platform for 1-2 people. there's a brisk trade in used ones. price goes down with age.

if you want to play around with the dimensions of a home built flat bottom skiff look at files Skiff.txt and Skiff.bas on my webpage www.ncf.ca/~ag384. probably the cheapest and easiest pointy fishing boat for the backyard builder. for an outboard the stern should be wide and flat (no deadrise to speak of). for rowing the stern should be narrower with deadrise to get the transom above the surface. for rough water the sides should be high. a deck helps keep out spray. I think its 1 hp per 50 lb of boat and contents to get it up on a plane. Most are overpowered.

the sides are bent 'round a temporary building form which defines the cross section at its widest, and screwed and glued to the stem and transom. the boat is turned over an the bottom put on. stringers and frames can be put in for stiffening. There's a standard design for a 16 footer in Rabl's "Boatbuilding In Your Own Backyard". It boards but most people use plywood these days.


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